Home Forums > Classic Ford Trucks > 1973 - 1979 Ford F100, F150, F250-F350 Truck Forum > Fuel mileage Discussion in ' 1973 - 1979 Ford F100, F150, F250-F350 Truck Forum ' started by JWC 3 , May 5, 2017 . I have seen many different homemade brackets and some are scary. I hunted through a salvage yard that only does pickups, they had over 3000 Ford trucks from 1973-1979 and I found a complete set from three different trucks. These engines are externally balanced, the pre 1979 429-460 is a internally balanced engine. A whole swap kit can be ordered online to simply bolt a 460 in however the kit is around $1800. Last you can also make the brackets; however, keep in mind that if the belts are not aligned properly they will fly off. 1980-up truck alt bracket with smog pump bracket cut off. You have different bellhousing bolt patterns from a 360 to a 460, so you'll need a new trans that matches the 460, and motor mounts are in a different place as well. Ford F100/Crown Vic Swap Big Block 429/460 Polyurethane Motor Mount Set. Keep this in mind before you purchase headers. Bronco & Ford Truck Experts (248) 437-5060. This article will explore the similarities and differences between the two. Brakes will be ok, but if you have front drums, I would snag the whole front end off a 73-79 truck that has power disc brakes. The aluminum bell housings are made for external balanced motors that require a thicker flywheel. Some trucks are more difficult than others to swap into. These are very sought after items, salvage yards know this and they will charge you. Headers for a 4×4 are “swap” headers which means they are expensive. Offered in three trim levels (Custom, Ranger, and Ranger XLT), new generation 1973 Ford F-Series pickups featured the most spacious interior ever. You will need to modify the tin shield. This is the bought L&L alt bracket. Swapping a 460/429 into your 79 and older Ford can be really easy or really hard depending on your parts availability and your specific truck. I am not trying to discourage you on a 460 swap, I think you should do it but things are different between FE's and 385 engines. Find 8 used 1973 Ford F-100 as low as $13,495 on Carsforsale.com®. “The engine is a 2014 Mustang GT Coyote equipped with the PBH swap brackets, including OEM A/C, power steering, and a Coyote alternator,” Harvey said. You will need to modify the tin shield. 12 and 13 were taken of a 460 mounted in a mid-'70s F350, but will fit all '65 thru '79 F100 thru F350 2WD trucks. You can even snag the 73-79 power steer box and hoses and add PS to you truck if you don't have it. This kit is designed to fit the 2011-2018 Coyote and place it in your Ford truck using the factory suspension and power steering box. Any C6 off a two wheel drive truck that fits a 351M-400, 429-460 will work with a 460 engine. For a 460 just use a starter for a 351M-400 motor. I made another plate for the head on the drivers side to bolt the power steering. The 460 stands are PN's D3TZ-6028-A and D3TZ-6029-A. They can come from a Ford Van that had a 460 or a 2wd Ford truck with a 460. The ID needs to be opened up as show. In 73 Ford widened the frame so if you do find a set of factory 460 motor mounts, you will need to modify or shim them, or you engine won't fit on them. I hope that this article helps when it comes time to swap in your big block. 1973 Ford F100 Custom Sleeper Cab Modified 351 Cleveland Ford engine (400 c.i.) Notice how they have a plate that bolts to the head to make a new location to bolt the alt. I would recommend a rear in all 4x4s. An inexpensive and reliable solution to swap a 5 Speed Transmission into a Ford F-100 on a Budget. This kit is designed to fit the 2011-2018 Coyote and place it in your Ford truck using the factory suspension and power steering box. A lot of this info will also work on a 67-72 body style but I personally have not done a swap on that year truck but I know a lot of the parts will interchange. They also can come from an 80-up Ford truck that had a 460 motor. This Unassuming 1973 F-100 Has a Secret to Tell By Brett Foote - August 30, 2016 What you see here is a clean, Maytag white 1973 F-100 with hub caps and white walls. If your truck is auto you will just use a normal C6 trans and converter from the Modified motor and use a stock 460 flex plate. Another pic of truck manifolds in a Bronco. There is another solution to doing this swap, LMC has a 429-460 engine conversion mount, they are kind of expensive, but consider this. 1973 F-250 460 swap from 360 - posted in 73-79 Ford Truck Tech Support: I have a 73 F-250 with a 360 engine and c-6 transmission with divorced transfer case.I am swapping out the 360 for a 460. Ford only offered 460s in 2wd trucks from 73-79 a 460 never came in a 4wd or in a truck with a 4spd. If you have a 4spd, it gets a little harder. If so, how much problem did you have? Plus a van does not use the factory truck style power steering pump. Then the rivet that went through the middle was drilled out and replaced with a grade 8 1/2 bolt that was welded to the steel back of the motor mount creating a stud. Brakes Clutch Cooling System Drivetrain Engine & Emission Engine Parts- Chrome Engine Serpentine Drive Systems Engine Swap Parts Exhaust Heater & AC Manuals. Pic of my “heavy duty cooling” 4 core radiator. Get the best deals on Motor Mounts for 1973 Ford F-100 when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. You will probably have to shorten or lengthen your drive shaft, especially if you have a FMX. They did put 429-460's engines in the 73 and later pickups. The aluminum bell housings are made for external balanced motors that require a thicker flywheel. These headers are available in both fender well exit and chassis exit. See all 25 photos As a gag for their social-media followers, Tony and Lucky set the F-100's front clip in front of the Crown Vic, saying that was the swap they were doing with these two cars. Also in a lot of cases you can use the brackets for the accessories from an 80-up Ford truck. A whole swap kit can be ordered online to simply bolt a 460 in however the kit is around $1800. I provided a picture showing the different in the 351M 400 flywheel bolt pattern and the 360-390 flywheels. If you don’t your truck will eat 5 starters in a month, I found out the hard way about that. Wiring is easy you can use you factory truck harness, you may have to lengthen a few spots but the rest is the same. 13 A/C can make the swap even harder. There will be a issue with using the later mounts on your 67-72 truck. with headers, dual stainless steel exhaust. Shop millions of cars from over 21,000 dealers and find the perfect car. Keep in mind that if you don’t want to go to the junk yard and search parts and fabricate like I did, you can purchase a complete install kit online. Pic of stock 2wd 73-79 truck motor mounts. Parts List Included. Van power steering pump and bracket. The wiring will be in the same basic layout, and your radiator should be ok, but you will need 429-460 hoses. I have seen various other mounts had had hole slotted and used. Mirrors. Ford only offered 460s in 2wd trucks from 73-79 a 460 never came in a 4wd or in a truck with a 4spd. But make sure you get the one with the same tooth count as a 460. I might have missed a thing or two, if I did, I am sure somebody will let you know. But not in a 1/2 ton of Bronco it will hit the tracbar! This is for internal balanced (pre 1982) 460 motors only. I have seen people bolt the 351M mounts to a plate of steel then bolt that to the 460 but this makes the motor sit too high. Then consider the time it takes to remove them, the towers are not easy to remove, even with the engine out of the truck. If your truck is 4×4 you need a rear sump pan. You can also make your own. You will need a transmission that will fit the Ford 460 bell housing pattern. Here are a few shots of the 429/460 2WD engine stands. What do you mean cresent wrenches cannot be used as hammers????? The only reason I did this is because the front springs hardly flex so it will never get any closer. Pic of my power steering bracket. You want a cast iron manual linkage style bell housing for a 4spd not an aluminum one. For a flywheel you will need one from a 360-390 FE Ford motor. Rear sump pan currently on 1985 truck motor. $19.99 shipping. However if you take some time and do a little fab work you can save a lot of cash here. Find FORD F-100 7.5L/460 Headers and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing! A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. In addition to F-100 EFI Conversion Kits, CJ's carries all of the Restomod engine upgrades that you may need. Ford only offered 460s in 2wd trucks from 73-79 a 460 never came in a 4wd or in a truck with a 4spd. If you are swapping into a ½ ton 4×4 or Bronco the factory 73-79 2wd will also work as long as you have the standard alternator. These are the homemade motor mounts using car mounts and drilling out a rivet and welding in a bolt. Headers for a 2wd can be bought right for that application being it was a factory option. Kit #3 $1,731.85. 429/460 Heavy Duty Clutch Flywheel Assembly: New 1978-79 Ford Bronco 1973-79 Ford F100, F150, F250, F350 *1978 & Older 429/460 Engines Proudly Made In The USA! Any help is greatly appreciated. Mon-Fri 12pm-5pm EST Sat-Sun Closed Details JavaScript is disabled. Fig. DETROIT - SOLD. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Van accessories will also work in a lot of cases but the van brackets are big and bulky. Quantity. Here is my front sump pan in my F250 Keep in mind I have a 7″ suspension lift. My problem is the trans,they have different bell housing bolt patterns.What trans should be used? If your truck is a 2wd you need a front sump car or 2wd truck oil pan. 74' f100 short bed, d3ve headed 460, comp 538 lift cam, all forged internals with flat top Pistons. You will need all 6 pieces total plus some bolts. The 1973-1979 Ford F100 and F150 can be upgraded to slip in a modern Ford Coyote motor from a Mustang GT or the F150 truck. This is a truck manifold in being used in a 79 F250 4×4 notice no cut frame. my signature lines...not really directed at anyone in particular.. 1973-1979 Ford F100 Coyote Swap Motor Mount Transmission Crossmember Kit 3/4 Ton. A F150 4×4 or Bronco are second being most of the factory parts off a 2wd will fit right in the ½ ton 4×4 frame. Mirrors. You front springs will be ok unless they are getting weak. Shop 1973 Ford F-100 parts and get Free Shipping on orders over $99 at Speedway Motors, the Racing and Rodding Specialists. This thing is massive. You want a cast iron manual linkage style bell housing for a 4spd not an aluminum one. Takes 6 … Thanks in advance for any help. It works but is very ugly looking. 79750DP $593.00. Sale Regular price $200.00 90a Polyurethane bushing Set. Tires rub when I turn and that’s with 10″ of lift and a D60 front which is wider than a D44. If you have a FMX, MX transmission the shifter linkage and trans kick down will not work with a C6 transmission. Last a F250 or F350 4×4 is the hardest being the steering box is on the inside of the frame as opposed to the outside like the ½ ton. With the introduction of the "new generation" 1973 Ford F-Series (F-100, F-250, and F-350) line of pickup trucks, Ford changed the way America looked at this popular form of transportation. These mounts look very similar to factory mounts that would be on a 351M or 400 but they fit the 460 and set right down into the stock motor mount frame pedestals. If you don’t your truck will eat 5 starters in a month, I found out the hard way about that. One of the more frequently-asked questions from owners of truck owners involves a body swap of their '67-'72 body onto a '73-'79 chassis. While the idea of Coyote swaps is becoming more pervasive, especially in older Mustangs, making this move in an early F100 presented a few challenges, which Harvey deftly overcame. Hedman Hedders 85650 - Hedman Specialty and Engine Swap Headers Headers, Specialty and Engine Swap, Fenderwell, Steel, Natural, Ford, 460, Pair Part Number: HED-85650 If you have a 4spd, it gets a little harder. Now here comes the tricky part, you cannot use the flex plate off a 351M-400 engine. I took a 2wd 78 460 bracket cut it in half and welded it back together. Stock 351M 400 Bellhousing from a 78 F250. If swapping into a 2wd try and find the factory brackets they will make things a lot easier. The swap can be performed with aftermarket parts or a factory parts depending on what your preference is. The sixth generation of the Ford F-Series, also known as the "dentside Ford" to enthusiasts, is a line of pickup trucks and medium-duty commercial trucks that were produced by Ford Motor Company from the 1973 to 1979 model years. The best 429/460 engines to install in the 78-79 Bronco are the 460s that were installed in the 75-82 E-Series (Carbureted) vans and the 73-79 2WD F-Series trucks (the 429 was NEVER installed in a Ford truck or van and the 460 was NOT available in 4WD trucks until the mid-1980s). This pan comes from any van or 80-up truck with a 460. By the time you have wrapped up in finding, pulling, buying and modify the stock mounts you might consider the conversion mounts. 1973 Ford F-100 parts in-stock with same-day shipping. You might be able to tweak your exhaust to fit the 460 but most likely you will need to cut it and refit it. We’re always looking for new content to share with other Ford truck enthusiasts. $20,000. Free shipping. $624.99. Mine cost me $$$$ and I had to find them and pull them. Ford 3 speed C3 automatic transmission. Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! If your truck had a 351M or 400 then you already have the correct bell housing. For a 4wd it gets tougher. My dad’s F250 however only has a 4″ lift and his front sup pan is smashed from hitting the dif. A whole swap kit can be ordered online to simply bolt a 460 in however the kit is around $1800. You will need a Transmission or a Bell housing from a 351M or 400. The swap can be performed with aftermarket parts or a factory parts depending on what your preference is. Produced by Ford in North America, Argentina, and Australia, this is the third and final generation of trucks derived from the 1965 Ford F-Series. The ears where the through bolt should go were cut off. Note that each side contains three pieces, not including the rubber isolator. It actually should sit 3″ higher but I lowered mine because of a 3″ body lift. You can also buy all of the “swap” brackets online. Probably should have said I already have an automatic tranny with this engine. If you chose to buy one from L&L products, you would get the same parts that are in some of these photos of my trucks. Once again, I saved another $250. The swap can be performed with aftermarket parts or a factory parts depending on what your preference is. If you tow or four wheel or even for a show truck that may sit in traffic a lot I would recommend the giant 4core “heavy duty cooling radiator”. This was on the same truck with the cut frame. One of the most common brands is L&L. There is another solution to doing this swap, LMC has a 429-460 engine conversion mount, they are kind of expensive, but consider this. 9 watching. There are a few companies that offer “swap” mounts once again expensive. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/ford-360-vs-460-a-133449.html, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. This is everything for one side. For a flywheel you will need one from a 360-390 FE Ford motor. If your truck had a 351M or 400 then you already have the correct bell housing. I made a plate to relocate the alternator also, but I saved $250. This is used for F250/350 4x4s and trucks with the large 130 amp alt. You will need a Transmission or a Bell housing from a 351M or 400. For example, a 2wd is easiest because there are already factory parts and mounts for the direct bolt in. 1979 2wd power steering bracket in a 78 Bronco. 1980-96 Trucks and Broncos 2WD and 4WD equiped with 6-cylinder engines and … The kit also includes the transmission cross-member for the 6R80 automatic transmission. But make sure you get the one with the same tooth count as a 460. The ID needs to be opened up as show. Conversion Kit: Ford 429/460: Ford Trucks F100/F150 6 Cylinder. Figs. Picture of car manifold in truck see how frame is cut. In addition to the swap you must also consider Air Conditioning if you truck has it. 1973 Ford F100 Pickup Truck #1642-DET. Very ugly looking alt bracket. 360-390 is on left and 351M-400 on right. Rather than shelling out the cash for a professional installation, CJ's offers a great assortment of Ford F-100 EFI Conversion Kits that will make for the perfect DIY project. Another van bracket but this truck has the A/C also. The worst part of this swap is the engine mounts, the rest of the stuff is easy to find. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands ... Ford 429 460 SWAP into 1965-1979 Pickup MOTOR MOUNT KIT (Fits: 1973 Ford F-100) $199.95. I provided a picture, Ford Unleashes Most Off-Road Capable & Connected 2021 F-150 Raptor, Ford Monster Dually That Broke The Internet, The 808Van – 1971 Ford E300 4×4 Sportsmobile. Add to Cart PLEASE READ ALL DETAILS BEFORE ORDERING Current estimated build/ship time is 2-3 weeks from purchase date. Mirrors. You must also use the pick tube (make sure you grab the bolt with the stud that holds the pickup tube also this is different from a 400), oil pump and dipstick that matches this pan 2wd or car stuff will not work. It was like this when I got the truck I’m glad it’s only for parts because frame is already starting to crack. Has anyone out there changed from an FE engine to a 460 in a 67-72 F100? An average cost for a set of swap headers is around $600. Easy to use parts catalog. But so far the best homemade are mounts from a mid 70s Ford Full-size car. See how close it really is? RockAuto ships auto parts and body parts from over 300 manufacturers to customers' doors worldwide, all at warehouse prices. If you are using a car motor the driver’s side exhaust manifold is the same as a truck the passenger side car manifold does not fit and requires cutting the frame which then leads to a broken frame. $7.95 shipping. The 67-72 Ford trucks never had a 429-460 installed in them so no factory mounts for these years. Brakes Clutch Cooling System Drivetrain Engine & Emission Engine Parts- Chrome Engine Serpentine Drive Systems Engine Swap Parts Exhaust Heater & AC Manuals. Newest [ February 19, 2021 ] 10 Winter Car Tips and Tricks You Need To Know Automotive Basics [ February 19, 2021 ] How To Clean, Whiten, and Restore a Coolant Overflow Tank DIY Projects After You get the mounts done and find a 351M-400, 429-460 transmission, 429-460 flex plate,torque converter, get the yoke while your at it. First if you have a 2wd truck you can buy the correct mounts and frame brackets to bolt it right in. For this swap you want truck or van exhaust manifolds. The 1973-1976 Ford F100 and F150 4X4 can be upgraded to slip in a modern Ford Coyote engine from a Mustang GT or the F150 truck. You will want at least the 3core 27” wide medium duty radiator for a 460. Mirrors. Pic of the bought L&L power steering bracket for a F250. Time it takes to find the factory 460 engine mounts, these are not easy parts to find. The 73-79 460 engine mounts are a three piece set up, the two lower towers, the rubber mount and the metal mount that is bolted to your block. The 79 and later 460 engines are externally balanced, but I don't think it is the same balance as a 351M-400 engine. Get the best deals on Motor Mounts for Ford F-100 when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com ... Ford 429 460 SWAP into 1965-1979 Pickup MOTOR MOUNT KIT (Fits: Ford F-100) ... $22.00. Truck manifold on top, Car manifold on bottom. There are few possibilities here also. 429/460 Header Chassis Exit 2WD - Hi Temp Black Paint Full Length 3"Collector 1967-1979 FORD F100/F150/F250/F350 2WD TRUCKS. The 73-79 460 engine mounts are a three piece set up, the two lower towers, the rubber mount and the metal mount that is bolted to your block. If your truck is a F250 and lifted pretty high Then you can get away with using a front sump pan. If your truck is auto you will just use a normal C6 trans and converter from the Modified motor and use a stock 460 flex plate. Only 3 left. 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