I did a brief assessment with RoSPA earlier in the year and following on from that I plan to do some form of 'advanced' training next year. RoSPA Tutors in my area are really good with feedback, positive comments, IAM you only take the test once whereas RoSPA you need to retest every 3 years which is a great way to ensure you keep driving / riding safely, lessons don't cost anything except the odd ⦠In essence this is a rhetorical question and difficult, if not impossible, to set out in a written response. So which organisation is better IAM or RoSPA and why? It ⦠Sums up my thoughts exactly, the IAM was a good start, but I want to go further. As a keen caravanner and motorist for many years I have developed quite an interest in the sheer fun of driving. Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding . Not that I've had any real experience of IAM riding, but from what little I've heard and seen, the IAM seems to put more emphasis on following the IAM RoSPA or IAM? Looking for some information from the knowledgable forum members out there. RoADAR test is graded Bronze, Silver, Gold. ... RoSPA also offer courses to businesses, helping people who drive for a living improve their skills. of 3 years, before you could sit the advanced test? The IAM lasts forever and the ROSPA requires a re-test every 3 years, but this is free if you keep up the membership (£20 per year) - but after 3 years the IAM mob will have got the extra cash back. I have recently passed my driving test, will be doing the pass plus and I realise that most of the ability and knowledge to be gained about driving begins now. I enjoyed the instruction, and I think I'm probably a better rider for it. RE: IAM or RoSPA 22-04-11, 21:02 - Views: 96 Welcome to the site Spursfatboy, not sure if its still the same these days, but when I did the advanced driving test back in 86, you had to have held your normal license for a min. You may be able to access these courses through your work. Discussion in 'Europe' started by bLaCk 8east, Sep 22, 2008. bLaCk 8east, Sep 22, 2008 #1. bLaCk 8east Been here awhile. - Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM) - The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) - DriveTech (DriveTech are part of the AA. Working through a national network of groups like Glasgow North Group of Advanced Motorists the IAM is uniquely positioned to help improve the skills and understanding of UK road users whether they be drivers, riders or cyclists. Great prices and discounts available. Its tests are ungraded and marked pass or fail. Cornwall Advanced Motorcyclists (CAM) was founded in 2001 when the local IAM motorcycle section was formed as a sub group running alongside the Cornish IAM car group. I'm sure people have a wide ranging experience of different organisations and what they have to offer and I was hoping that people might advise what might be the best course of action for me next, as someone who has only been riding for less than a year? RoSPA or IAM; Notices If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Joining a local RoSPA or IAM group will give you access to advanced tuition over a time period that suits you, to get you ready for an assessment at the end of your training. - Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial OK Guys, the old f@rt is thinking again of trying the advanced route. I'll try seeing them both on the side, maybe even slip out when I'm done riding IAM and see if RoSPA fancy a quickie. Quality and the customer experience is like any other service you purchase, some excellent, some shocking, lots in between! « Reply #10 on: 02 March, 2012, 09:12:57 AM » There are quite a few good courses out there...but they all cost, with the IAM and RoSPA once you join the tuition is free...Trainees on the bike side are asked to make a donation to the running costs of the tutor, but apart from that, we, as tutors, we give up our time for free. Declaration: I enter the advanced test and refresher tests of RoSPA Advanced Drivers and Riders entirely at my own risk. Passed the test about a year ago now, after waiting around for a test-date - it got to nearly 2 months after my last observed run That was the copper's fault though who was busy at the time.. Im glad I did it. We are fully supportive of the aims of the IAM and RoSPA, but passing the test is just the first stage. The cost of the advanced driving test in a car for drivers 26 years and over is £67.00 inc VAT. Theses days IAM, RoSPA and all DVSA standards are based on a national standard. Student radios and earpieces for all makes of radios. Student radios and earpieces for all makes of radios. This test is more aimed towards fleet clients) There are 2 tests that more aimed towards approved driving instructors (ADI'S) and are based on DVSA standards: - DIAmond Advanced Motorists by Den » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:20 . Motorcycle instructor / advanced radio and Bluetooth training systems. âIt isnât as black and white as that. I'd never heard of RoSPA when I was into getting some advanced tuition. GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike Great prices and discounts available. IAM Roadsmart and RoSPA both play an important part in advanced motorcycling. Re: IAM or RoSPA?? ROSPA (The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents) is typically a certification that requires re-assessment every three years, whereas the IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorists) is currently a ⦠Once you pass, you are an Advanced Driver for life. They have the graded pass system, plus retests every 3 years which helps keep your standards up (the IAM is a one-off). Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM) IAM RoadSmart courses are generally regarded as the most respected and recognised post-test course. The IAM was founded in 1956, has over 100,000 members and is the UKâs leading independent road safety charity. What cannot be enforced is the standard of delivery of an individual instructor/observer when the assessor is not there. Plus there is a slightly different emphasis on the coaching. The RoSPA test has to be retaken every 3 years which is one of the original reasons a lot of people rated it above the IAM test (see IAM Fellow above) and for Gold a higher standard of drive is expected. IAM larger, more groups, bigger groups, may be more local. My mates are IAM members and I have ROSPA Gold, either worthy of achievement! So sent my stuff off for the IAM in November 2005. A ânormalâ IAM pass would get you roughly a RoSPA Bronze or Silver depending on the quality of the drive and who you ask. OK, so letâs get to the killer question â Why one to one motorcycle training rather than IAM Roadsmart or RoSPA training course? RoSPA Bronze RoSPA Silver / IAM entry level RoSPA Gold / IAM F1RST Masters Pass Masters Distinction One other question that remains unanswered is how large are the differences between each of the minimum standards. I would say that purely on the coaching side, ROSPA has a few things going for it. But the re-test seems OK to me, and gives you the chance to ⦠IAM or RoSPA? UK Riders - IAM/ROSPA. Many insurers will recognise the qualifications issued by RoSPA, the IAM, the BMF and the Enhanced Rider Scheme. I'm a group secretary for an IAM group (motorcycle) and I've done ROSPA as well. ROSPA road positioning for the best view and safety advantage, using vanishing points and tree lines as markers. IAM Masters - (what the IAM say about the Master Standard click for link) After being an IAM member for some thirty plus years and getting myself back to a good riding standard by taking the help of Senior Observers and observers in a local IAM Group called the âSolent Advanced Motorcyclistsâ (or SAM). Bike Chat Forums Index-> General Bike Chat-> General Bike Chat If you join an IAM group they will push you to take the IAM test, a RoSPA group the RoSPA test, the tests are pretty well equivalent, except that the IAM is pass or fail, the RoSPA is graded with Bronze generally considered an IAM fail, Silver a pass and Gold a good pass. There just aren't enough examiners inside the IAM or ROSPA. Are any of the people on here members of IAM/ROSPA. IAM or RoSPA 22-04-11, 16:14. CAM is now an independent group and charity in its own right having completely split from the car group in 2005 and remains affiliated to IAM RoadSmart. Motorcycle instructor / advanced radio and Bluetooth training systems. IAM test is a one-time pass or fail. RoSPA is also a charity and mainly concerned, as its name suggests, with promoting road safety. Yet they arenât the only answer.â The IAM is a charitable organisation set up to improve driving standards voluntarily. ROSPA or IAM? Not just getting the car and/or caravan from A - B but doing so as skilfully and expertly as I can, making appropriate progress but always remaining as safe as I can be. A RoSPA gold is the highest civilian driving standard available and the holder will be a master of his or her art. If full time professionals were employed the costs might put a lot of people off. We still haven't addressed the problem of actually retesting a significant proportion of 91,000 members every 3 or 5 years. RoADAR smaller, allegedly more friendly. Concensus is that RoADAR Gold is higher than an IAM pass, but opinion is divided as to where the IAM pass falls in the RoADAR grading scheme. To see more about what is expected, download our Car Test Guidelines (PDF 228kb). The level of saving will vary depend on the insurance company and training certificate, but you could lower the price by around 10-15%. 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